Steve Ballmer: Vista selling "incredibly well"

May 26, 2008

Steve Ballmer: Vista selling Love or hate Windows Vista, it is selling on almost every new PC sold be it a desktop or laptop.  Of course, that’s easy for Microsoft since it has right around 90% of the computer operating system market and users essentially have no choice but to buy a PC with Vista.

According to PC Authority, Ballmer said in a press conference,

"Vista sells on almost 100 per cent of all the new consumer PCs around the world and on "45 percent of all of new business PCs."

Of course, Microsoft is known for skewing figures just a little.  Just because a Vista license is sold with a system doesn’t mean the computer actually has Vista installed.  If you’ll remember, some manufacturers are still selling Windows XP downgrades with Vista machines so it actually has Windows XP installed.  The company still counts it as a "sale" of Windows Vista.

Response to Windows Vista should still be considered marginal at best and some users just think it’s equal to or worse than Windows ME but that might be changing.

Ballmer continued,

"Application compatibility in Vista was not as high as many of our customers would have liked, that is improving, not because we’ve changed Vista, but because the applications are getting upgraded to be Vista compatible."

Overall, most users care more about compatibility and less about security.  But, let’s not forget that it’s taking users longer to get used to Vista than it took for Windows XP.  Fret not, in two years or less, Windows 7 might be here and Windows Vista will be swept under the rug like the unwanted child it really is (to users anyway).

If you’re running Vista, I have found it’s best to stick with the 32-bit version because some of my favorite (fairly recent) applications simply do not run in the 64-bit environment.  After trying out the 64-bit version for a bit, I’ve gone back to the 32-bit version.

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8 Responses to “Steve Ballmer: Vista selling "incredibly well"”

  1. steveballmer:

    A sale is a sale!

  2. a non e mous:

    Do I detect a hint a hypocrisy here, Jonathon?

    I seem to recall a major dummy spit from you a couple of months ago, where you loudly proclaimed Vista to be a piece of garbage, and that you were ditching it in favour of using the Mac OS.

    These are your remarks from March 24, 2008:

    “…but I’ve become absolutely fed up with Vista and was able to snag a good deal on a MacBook Pro which I plan to make my primary laptop. Goodbye Microsoft, you’ll learn the lesson after users leave your company; like rats leaving a sinking ship. ”

    What happened? Did Apple’s anality turn out to be a bit like Microsoft in a different wrapper?

    Maybe Linux doesn’t look so bad after all…

  3. Jonathan Schlaffer:

    Can you remember everything you said two months ago? I didn’t think so.

    Where Apple is concerned, the hardware is great, the operating system is great… the support is… lacking and in my case just a bit irritating. I got fed up with that aspect of Apple.

    At least I know what to expect with Microsoft and I’ve only had to call their support once, to get Vista validated after installing it on a new hard drive. I had to call Apple five times… for ONE issue and even then the solution was far less than acceptable.

    I’ve never had to call the manufacturer of a laptop (except Dell – which sucks…) for a problem.

    I suppose what you said about Apple is kind of true.

    Linux still looks bad, as it hates new hardware, especially wireless cards and an operating system is USELESS to me if it doesn’t recognize the wireless card. And, I don’t particularly feel like using ndiswrapper or hunting down an obscure driver that may or may not support all the card’s features.

    Then there’s the graphics drivers… it always comes down to the graphics drivers, wireless cards or both, in Linux. It’s still not ready for prime time and don’t even get me started on it’s iTunes equivalent… SongBird… it’s buggy and sluggish… iTunes looks like a waxed, shiny and super fast sports car compared to Songbird.

    I see promise for Songbird but like Linux, it’s not there yet.

  4. ralph:

    I have a hard time believing anything that comes out of Redmond.

  5. Ken:

    “Linux still looks bad, as it hates new hardware, especially wireless cards and an operating system is USELESS to me if it doesn’t recognize the wireless card. And, I don’t particularly feel like using ndiswrapper or hunting down an obscure driver that may or may not support all the card’s features.

    Then there’s the graphics drivers… it always comes down to the graphics drivers, wireless cards or both, in Linux. It’s still not ready for prime time and don’t even get me started on it’s iTunes equivalent… SongBird… it’s buggy and sluggish… iTunes looks like a waxed, shiny and super fast sports car compared to Songbird.

    I see promise for Songbird but like Linux, it’s not there yet.”

    Why do you continue to comment on things you have no expertise with?

    Number one is you aren’t talking about Linux, you are talking about a 2 versions old Unbuntu.

    Broadcom chip support was added to to the last two kernel releases and no longer requires ndiswrapper, I’m currently running it on a mini pci-e card I had replaced with an Intel when the Broadcom wouldn’t work . OSX86 liked it as an airport card, so I popped it in and when I rebooted to Ubuntu 8.04 that loaded the firmware (I was hooked up to the internal ethernet) automatically. I rebooted and it was running fine at the full 54 Meg.

    There are a a plethora of GUI’s you can use as well as several main Distro branches that the majority of modern releases descend from. Debian, Mandriva and Red Hat, Slackware etc.

    You don’t write about Windows or OSX without adding the version. I could say Windows has problems with wireless if I used ME. Linux is the kernel. That’s all it is. The Distros are what you are actually writing about and they have version releases just like any OS.

    The various GUI interfaces all handle things in different ways as well. the 2 main ones Gnome and KDE also have versions that have differences. KDE 4.1 and KDE 3.9 are very different. Aero, XP and 2000 GUI’s are different,

    As far as the itunes replacement there are at many packages such as Rhythmbox, Audacious, Amarok, Banshee and on and on.

    There are many video chipsets. Some of them Linux Distros have no issues with. Some have issues for various reasons, like the manufacturers not releasing info for Open Drivers or a Binary Driver as they do for OSX or Windows.

    I could do a Google search of Video Driver Problems XP and there are over 4 million hits. Your broad brush swath you always use for Linux is not only inaccurate, it’s a disservice to the people that read your blog and mistake it for an informed opinion.

    You want to state that Ubuntu 6.06 had problems with the ATI video card in your laptop , fine. That’s a world of difference from Linux having poor video support . You want to state the broadcom card gave it fits, ok. Same difference. Remember when you had to go in and remove your wireless card and reinstall Vista drivers to make your card recognized by Vista? Did that mean Windows can’t do wireless?

    Unbuntu is not Linux, just like Windows 2000 isn’t XP or Vista. OSX Tiger and Leopard are not the same. Just stop or be accurate.

    And in honor of the 12 month anniversary:

    http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:%20/2007/05/13/how-ubuntu-nuked-my-laptop/

  6. Dave Bissett:

    Why buy a broken new computer with Vista on it? Most computers work optionally with only one generation of operating systems, the next windows will likely require a even better PC.

    So why not just buy an Apple with OS X that can run winlose if you desperately need it?

    It doesnt make sense to buy a lemon new car

    It makes sense to buy a model that “just works” and thats an Apple with OS X.

  7. Ken:

    “It makes sense to buy a model that “just works” and thats an Apple with OS X.”

    It also locks you into a single hardware source and OS that is a dictator and not a partner . Apple is not enterprise friendly, and there are many concerns in that area. Come back when there is OSX native software for financial, HR, Engineering, a broad Server line, guaranteed 24/7 and 4 hour response time for repairs and so on. We currently get access to all MS beta releases for testing compatibility with mission critical processes and our applications vendors do the same. Can you picture Jobs doing the same? How’s the Think Secret website doing?

    It makes no sense to pay a premium for a PC and software that you can’t use to run your business. It’s bad enough to have software lock-in, and adding hardware lock-in as well won’t fix the issue. The issue is Vista not the hardware.

    If a business is going to dump/transition Microsoft it makes more sense to use Linux, a superb Server environment that can also easily handle mundane chores like email and office chores, and be able to use the hardware flexibility they currently enjoy. Apple has a huge hole in it’s product line between the Mini and MacPro line.

    Apple’s biggest strength is having full control over the entire package. It’s also it’s biggest weakness.

  8. Jimi:

    I won an awesome computer with Vista on it and I love it. I’ve had no problems with it so far (it’s been about 5 months). It is pretty… and in the beggining I had a few problems, but Vista found drivers, etc that fixed them. I had problems getting Gears of War to work, but I did a quick search and found a solution. I also couldn’t get my webcam to completely work, but a quick search fixed that too. The computer I won is great, and I hope it runs 7 well, which I think I’ll buy.
    Apple has annoyed me several times. I could forgive Apple too if it wasn’t for those snotty commercials. You think you’re better than everyone else, I get it, just stfu already. They also seem to think they are better for young people who want to have fun. What’s the first thing you think of when you think of fun? Games. Who has better games? It is a really one-sided battle on that. Windows > Everything about 9999999999 to 1

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